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Between the Trees posted by jpr ~ 17.11.2009 18:56

Keith Bradbury (aka Unclesomebody) and Tyler Landman are known for their exceptional repetitions at Bleau during the last months, see for instance our news item of April. After L'Étranger | The Outsider - 85 jours à Fontainebleau, Keith has realized a 67 minutes film showing the journey of those two ambitious Englishmen across the forest. The CD "Between the Trees" can be ordered (or downloaded) on unclesomebody.com. More details can be found in our forum.

About the CD posted by jpr ~ 17.11.2009 19:04

We must admit that the boulders shown in the film "Behind the Trees" are simply exceptional. They represent the very best of Fontainebleau : the classics, the hidden gems, the hardest, and the most beautiful. Let us give a few examples :
-- ultimate difficulty with Kheops, Satan i Helvete, Gecko, Ubik (all done by the standing and the sit down start versions!)
-- problems of all types, from the slab of Duel to the dyno of Karma or the highball of Watchtower
-- big classics like Big Jim or Big Boss
-- rarely repeated problems like Big Dragon, Elephunk ou Toutes Peines Confondues.
We shall not disclose all the other boulders that you will discover in the CD. We just hope they will you make you dream, not necessarily of 8c's but of the magic of climbing in the forest of Fontainebleau.

Translation of a French message posted by titi77 ~ 19.11.2009 21:00

Can I order a CD for Christmas for my grandmother who hasn't got any hero since the death of Général de Gaulle?

A reward posted by jpr ~ 19.11.2009 23:03

Keith offers a CD (or a reward) to anybody who has seen every boulder problem in his video climbed already. You can e-mail unclesomebody@gmail.com for a refund. Notice however that the climbers named "Titi" might be considered as liars in the actual context... ;-)

Convaincu [fr] posted by titi77 ~ 20.11.2009 20:54

Chapeau bas pour ce trait...

Erreur [fr] posted by fafounet ~ 21.11.2009 11:03

Le fim s'intitule "between the trees" et non "behind the trees". Ca pourrait néanmoins être un bon titre pour une suite :)

between or behind [fr] posted by Greg de la Forêt ~ 21.11.2009 13:45

Behind , c'est pour la party du film qui se déroule au Bas-Cu ?

blorigolo [fr] posted by titi77 ~ 22.11.2009 12:32

Oui, avec jean-pierre Trébert en guest star...

beetween the trees, Earth? [fr] posted by sdblocs ~ 08.12.2009 13:39

Hello to Tyler and Keith ; and everyone concerned.

I've been amazed and exited to have opportunity to see your climbs, but was finally shocked and feeling depressed about the way all the problems are done with "bad" starts. When it's not from a pad it's from many, and same for the seat-starts who are definitely not seated in the movie.

It will be so easy for such strong climbers like you, or anyone, to be more concerned by the "proper" way to start a problem. It's not a trouble of ethic at all, if you consider the start by the same point of view as the end of a boulder... To do a problem, you have to exit well, so why not starting well?

Starting a problem will be always better not using pad(s) and all kind of artificial elevation when possible, simply. Considering the pads just for falling could be the next goal of future generations! The thinner layer you put under your feet to start, the cleaner and harder is your climb. And finally, what counts more than the "way" you do things?...

Maybe there's a "start-carpet" to be done by all the pads manufacturers! I do not like too the "paillasson" (house-entrance thing) usually used by many bleausards, as i find it too heavy and slippering a lot on forest ground. I prefer using a simple rag (legs cut from dead pants...) in dry conditions - couldn't find thinner layer and very usefull for cleaning holds too -, and the thinner carpet as you can found in cars if ground is too wet.

Notice also, i don't care starting on a pad or a stone when it's really the last and only solution for me to start a boulder. And i'm really not that psyched about people starting on the pad doing jogg-style-circuit, or one problem for his own deep in the woods, as long as they never manage to appear on a media scene and giving this for example.

Also please, Tyler and Keith, don't take that request specially for you! Even if your movie goes too far on this aspect for me, i can see that at differents levels (of elevation!) everywhere in the bouldering activity now.

Where are we going with bouldering if we never consider clearly and properly the best way to start a boulder? Where are the limits? Are you starting on a stiff new SNAP pad, or do you prefer a mega huge Black Diamond? Ah OK, maybe the best is even a very old BBZ folded in 3?

Well, I'm felling sad about making such a long text for this, and maybe it's just cause i'm an old school guy, who has climbed too much when the pads where not in the activity at all...

I just hope it could be time for everyone to pay a bit more attention on the closest way to start from natural ground where all boulders stands, so maybe higher will be the achievement of bouldering.

Stephan Denys.

re: beetween the trees, Earth? posted by svilko ~ 22.12.2009 22:45

I think Stephan Denys is right on some point. Static starts from the ground are a way different than dynamic starts from say it mondo or more than one pad. I know it is sometimes boring to do all things properly in cases this is not hard, but for the video it must be like that ;) I also think that the start holds must be defined on every boulder like in Frankenjura, not just "sds".

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