carnage assis - ds (04-10-2004 21:46)
Donc qu'en est-il ? Avec la casse de certaines prises de pied le départ direct se fait-il toujours ? Je vous avouerai que je ne l'ai pas testé donc je ne peux pas émettre d'avis !!! Mais le départ assis en utilisant la prise de droite rajoute effectivement une petite difficulté mais je ne suis pas capable de coter et de dire si effectivement ça peut valoir 7c !!! Merci d'avance et bonne grimpe

eliminate? - Anonymous (29-09-2004 16:06)
is carnage sitting REALLY without using the last RH hold? If so, it begs the question - "why?".

Why? - Anonymous (29-09-2004 17:12)
It is a silly definition but it is a great and popular move without that hold. See it as a nice game. Carnage sit start (with the hold) is only a little harder than from standing and doesn't change the grade.

Maybe not... - Anonymous (29-09-2004 17:14)
Since the start holds have been broken, I wonder if it's still feasible with the direct method. I guess you can use the right hand near the start holds of Berezina.

i've done it - (29-09-2004 23:37)
it' little harder than stand up

cheers - Anonymous (13-10-2004 15:16)
thanks for the info guys.

I guess the same sitter into carnazina wouldn't alter the grade significantly either then. Bye.